" Okay right now we're gonna talk with Birger Juell; and Birger you pretty much developed this type of flooring right?"

" That's right."

" Yeah, it's just a beautiful idea."

" Well, a man came to me with some all lumber out of an old factory."

" Donnelley [unk] in fact. He said I got millions of these little squares"

" They have 3 x 4 x 6. And we used in a machine shop, so they paint the floors in the machine shop----"

" Shop."

" to absorb the shock of the----"

" to----"

" running [unk]"

" and the truck and everything with [unk] very durable."

" Yeah."

" So, and of course it would block and terribly he said "Well, see what you can do". So, I took it home----"

" and I split it in 2, and look to that this great grain----"

" Yeah"

" And I said, wow! It has the possibility."

" Sure."

" So, I put together a sample and put it in my show room"

" And people liked it."

" I sold a job."

" So, all you do is you take old beams from barns now?"

" Yes, we take, we buy our barns----"

" Yeah."

" and get beams, slice them to whatever dimension we want."

" Right."

" And then hand bevel and install them."

" Fantastic."

" All you do is put a little beveled edge on it----"

" Yes."

" and you get the feeling of old cobblestone"

" The cobblestone."

" Kind of, yeah."

" That's where the cover wood comes in"

" Exactly, let's talk with Chuck about the installation process. Hi Chuck."

" Hi!"

" You've already, well, you've already put some down what---- well, take us back. What's the first consideration here?"

" The first thing to do is map out the room. Start right down the center of the room----"

" with a chalk line squared up both ways. So, this is a 12-foot wide room when you went to the 6 squared point."

" 5 to 6 feet. What about the subfloor that we gave you was it good enough?"

" Yeah, this is a good shape and this would be a pretty sound 3/4-inch plywood subfloor----"

" Right"

" all that can be sold and installed over time for it also."

" Yes."

" Now, the next move is just to keep putting down snap lines to keep it fairly uniform."

" Do you do it in sections put it at times or what?"

" I do about 5 rows at a time. That's what I've done here. I've set up here for 5 rows."

" Alright, and you have to put down a chalk line for each row or----"

" Right, just to keep it uniformed. We got it marked out already."

" So, here, I'll hold this way."

" Okay."

" What a big low isn't it?"

" Get it?-Nice."

" Okay, so then, you're actually going in sections 5 across. What about the mastic that you do?"

" Mastics that is rubber-based. I don't wanna use a water-based mastic with this product."

" Why not?"

" It'll cut the wood."

" Ah!"

" I've got about and a quarter inch trial. [unk] fairly thin. Alright, this is the line"

" I like the look of that mastic it's nice and gluey."

" I usually start on the outside just keep it fairly uniform. Press them into place and instill into the middle."

" And you're going absolutely randomly right? You're not trying to match one tile to the other?"

" No, I try to keep it as good as random as possible."

" I noticed that one has a big knot. Do you have to worry about knot popping out?"

" Usually the knot if they're gonna pop out, they've already done so."

" [unk] the spacing about even, little plus or minus trying to keep the lines fairly uniform."

" What's the nature of the mastic? How long will it be soft like that before you can go to your next step?"

" It takes a full 2 days before you can go to the grounding process before you can really walk on the floor."

" Okay."

" We'll do the last walls and the wall cuts I'll put a piece of plywood down work on top of that."

" This section of the kitchen floors has had 2 days to set up. This mastic has all dried. Now, chuck what is this process?"

" controlling in the grout."

" And what is the grout? It's not like what you would use with ceramic tile, it's something else."

" Well, maybe it's sawdust----"

" from this---- from the wood."

" Yeah."

" mixed with the fast-drying oil-based sealer."

" What's the ratio of the mixed?"

" Two parts sawdust about one parts of liquid"

" Great looking stuff."

" And you just dump it down."

" Just put it right on the floor push it into the cracks."

" Using a rubber tool there."

" Right, you can do it with your hand do it with a trowel, take out the excess or some form of [unk]."

" Isn't beautiful though, the grain of the wood?"

" And a trial of---- seal all the face, so take that out the excess----"

" so it doesn't dry on the top of the bricks."

" Yeah. And then how long does this have to sit before you can walk on it or is there another steps?"

" Overnight, the next day you would come back and put on another coat of oil based-sealer."

" Now Birger, how much maintenance is required to the floor like this?"

" Really very little. Apply oil a couple of times every 2 years, wax it once a year, and buff it once a month [unk]."

" So, you buff it regularly?"

" Yes."

" And imagine this is the kind of floor that really takes on a beautiful pristine."

" Beautifully."