" This is one of the most complicated places to shingle in the house because you've got your white cedar shingles on the side wall coming in contact with your asphalt roofing shingles, and well, it's the place where you could have leaks, right, Ron?"

" Yes, it is."

" So what have we done here to prevent leaks?"

" Well, what we've done here is we're roofing the cottage here. We put a layer of shingles."

" Yes."

" And then we put a course of step flashing over the shingles."

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" As we go along."

" It's got aluminum sheeting like this."

" Yes, it is."

" And it gets folded and attached always over the asphalt shingle, right?"

" That's correct. If any water or rain or still snow is to get in there, they'll come down over these step flash and onto the shingle and run right out."

" Yeah. 'Cause you put one over the back part of the tab and then the next shingle covers it."

" Correct."

" And then, of course, you've got your house wrap on and tell us what you're doing now."

" Okay. What we're doing here now, we're ready for side wall, and we're just putting in our courses right around."

" We try to work to the tops and the bottoms of the windows."

" And we just bring our courses right around so when you're."

" Sure."

" Looking out onto my level, it's nice and clean."

" You've got your little reference lines on the corner post right there."

" Correct."

" All the way up."

" Right."

" And you just take a level and put a line and you're off and running. Let's watch."

" We're off. Ready to go."

" Hey. Before you get started though, this is such a neat little invention that you've got here. Just take a little piece of wood and a shingle and kind of created your own little bracket here to hold extra cuts and."

" Makes your job a little bit easier."

" Makes it clean."

" You have everything on the ready for you."

" Yeah. That's good. Go ahead and fly."

" Okay. So that's how you fit them. In this case, you just cut away the excess and she goes up."

" Right."

" I'm used to keeping shingles, white cedar, just a little bit farther space apart from each other."

" Now, well, in this area, we have such a degree of weather that they tend to shrink especially white cedar shingles. "

" Red cedars don't shrink as much as for weather purposes, but."

" So."

" The white cedar shrink a lot more."

" Okay. So you put them up real tight together."

" Right."

" Now there are plenty of snaps and quickly, the second nail goes into each one. And onto the next one."

" I'm ready for another course."

" That's looking real good, Ron. Do you want to show us exactly how you can figure out the angle that you have to cut that first shingle so that it comes onto the roof? Just show it."

" Sure. Well, sometimes, we know the pitch of the roof so we can go ahead and make them a fat pitch."

" Yeah."

" But another way to do it is just put this shingle up like that at the level course."

" Yeah."

" Put the shingle along the pitch of the roof here. You just draw a line. You can go ahead and cut that around your gables so it."

" As long it's parallel, you're gonna get the right angle onto the shingle. "

" Correct."

" But you know that this is a 12-pitch roof, so."

" We can go ahead and cut them into a 45-degree angle."

" Exactly. Okay. So, Ron, is there any rule of thumb about overlapping the shingles and where the nails are and where the seams are?"

" Well, a general rule, we try to keep away at least a half an inch with a mini joint or any nail."

" And we just continue our courses as we go along with the same rule of thumb."

" And of course, you never want to have 2 joints lined up. One on top of the other."

" No."

" 'Cause you can have the weather get into it."

" Correct."

" Especially wind-driven rains here on the island."