" -So the objective here is we're taking this Douglas Fir beams and we're making them look like they're a hundred years old or more."

" -Correct."

" -So let's look at your sample that's down here first of all, so that we can really get an idea of the artistry involve in this. This is new lumber these guys make it look like everybody has been in here including the termites' right?"

" -Correct. You see that's parts of the edge loop that we build that's the way we first start with the hatchet to give that physical you know to get rid of all the rough edges."

" and what are this other tools that you use?"

" -Well, we use that wall so we can do some of the termites that you can see as part of the lumber. "

" -This looks like one of those scrapers that you use in a body shop when you fiber glass that."

" -Well exactly, well we use this also for to scrape some of the rough edges."

" -Mm-hmm."

" -And..."

" -So what is the first step when you're confronted with a brand new timber up there?"

" -Well the first step is to use the hatchet to gather all the rough edges does a physical and personally we'll start to do."

" -Wow."

" -Then after that the next step will be to use the scraper so we can get rid of all the loose fir and the splinters."

" -So we're trying to know as, we can do it you know I'm very heavy this ran so we can do it medium and this kind of tie with one of this sort of a medium distress, not to get all and carry away."

" -Yeah."

" -So in this pillar we had to do the chisel to make like this log as, actually was bringing apart you know on time."

" -It really is an art though there's no science involved you kind of doing things randomly."

" -Actually what we're trying to do with this beam that was with edge and start to kind of to split apart, so this is kind of the termites that we'll use the process."

" -Wormy wood loft."

" -Exactly."

" -So then we do this sort of a little marks on the stress, like the termites has to eat along this soft wood, part of the wood."

" -Now I notice the fellows in the back are using sandpaper. What do you need the sand?"

" -Well after we finish doing the physical distress we must use the sandpaper to get a little of all the, before we apply the stain."

" -The little chips and stuff."

" -Exactly."

" -Yeah."

" -That give us a..."

" -Is there a trick, I mean you don't use rough paper I know this is pretty..."

" -Well this is rough paper you know we use 80."

" -Oh you do use an 80."

" -80 sandpaper as I would have."

" -Yeah."

" -Then as we go along with the process we can go down to 100 or 120 it depends you know."

" -Okay."

" -What wood we've wanna get there."

" -Alright. And then ones you've got it as smooth as you wanted you just start staining it."

" -Well then I think we'll kind of stain that the first pillar we'd have to little type of miss on the stain, you know to, according to the color of the wood trying to accomplish you know."

" -Right, right, right."

" -So in this time you know, the one with sort of a honey color."

" -Yeah."

" -So that's why we could use this process."

" -But there's a sootiness I mean there's a real depth to it that isn't achieved with just a urethane."

" -No, no, do you see what it is. I mix up some amount. Actually after that we'll seal it we'll use some wood sandpaper and block sandpaper in wood with water."

" -Oh just like you do when you're refinishing an automobile."

" -Well yes that way we can get rid of all you know, we'll have so much salt and we have more depth to it."