" Now the approach that you've taken here is one that requires a great deal of patience. I know that"

" Yes it does."

" 'cause there's so much archaeology involved. Can you tell us a little bit about that? What we're looking at up here, for example?"

" What I've done is I moved the staircase back to where it originally was."

" Uh huh."

" One of the owners, Mr. Palmer in the 1850, was owner before the Civil War, one of the update is housed to the Great Revival, so what he did is he moved the staircase to the back hall, closing pivots or the [unk] put the house back to how it was in 1808, 1809 when it was originally done."

" So, is all of this new work or are they fragments?"

" Some of it is, most of it's new, some of it is old, like this spandrel here is from the original staircase which got moved to the back."

" This element is known as a spandrel. So this is an original one?"

" That is correct."

" You've carved all the replicates"

" That's correct."

" 'cause you are in your own carpenter on this."

" To a large extent. I've had help from people, but to a large extent"

" If you're as good a lawyer as you are a carpenter, I'm sure you make a lot of happy clients outside of that."

" I don't know about that."

" Now this is all Southern yellow pine that you've used throughout."

" Correct. Long wave pine."

" Uh huh."

" And up at the top, I noticed that there's a, well I guess that's a Greek key that runs along the bottom of the ballister."

" Right. That's faced all the fragment was found in the well of the house."

" An actual fragment of the original wood?"

" An actual fragment of the original meander or Greek key, whatever you wanna call it."

" And so you made that?"

" Correct."

" The architrave for this door is pretty remarkable, I mean, you got the octagon which is more or less the motif of the house 'cause I know you have an octagonal parlours."

" Well, that's right, of William Penn who was an English architect in the mid 18th century who wrote a whole bunch of books that most American builders had."

" Blue ceiling in there, is that something that would have been authentic?"

" Yes. There were 3 coats of white plasto and the last one, the oldest one was blue. The medallion had been destroyed, but you could go farther the blue points of the sticking point where it pointed, you can then draw that [unk] and go to the design books, this one happens to have oak lions as a decoration, the one that was in the octagonal parlour where we will go later have [unk] flowers"

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" You could be that accurate about it from the sticking points"

" And the octagonal parlour is through here?"

" Yes. The octagonal parlour is through here."

" Bunky, was the octagonal plan very- very popular in Richmond?"

" Yes it was."

" Great number of octagonal bay houses, but this is the only one which the portico faces the street. All the rest of the portico faces the garden."

" Are many surviving?"

" This is the only one that survived."

" So urban renewal did a way with most of them."

" Yeah."

" And again this is a working progress, so you get the scaffolding right in the middle of the room. What's happening with the ceiling?"

" I put in the original lamp backed up with the original nails, part of it had to be taken out to get the heating in air condition under the ceiling."

" And of course the plaster was not so legible?"

" Correct."

" But the plaster cornice is original, isn't it?"

" Yes."

" Tell us about that."

" That's the way [unk] and it had 23 coats of paint on it and two wonderful ladies came in 2 days a week for [unk] with dental tooth and picked it clean."

" And again the octagon repeats throughout the flat part of it."

" Yes."

" It's quite beautiful. And then everything else in the room seems to be coming together. Let's talk about the wanes coating 'cause here again you can see all the beautiful southern yellow pine."

" Yes."

" This is, was here, or you have them reproduced?"

" That was here. All of that was here except the pieces that were missing on each side of the fireplace."

" And so this is new?"

" That's new."

" You made like, they made it with the Dutchman at the back to keep it from warping and to hold up together."

" And it also let in add an angle?"

" Yes. It's like that. Like a [unk]"

" like a [unk]"

" and this is what, maybe 6 borders that you got there."

" So that will be going right into place and"

" After I got to fit in."