" So what are the different parts of the window trims?"

" This is a very new curtain for the early 19th century, it's called French drapery. And there are several parts to it. This is the hanging curtain that was very popular in the 18th century. It's just a straight curtain and it just hangs."

" It's a panel------"

" And we'd [unk]call it a curtains."

" and you can just work with it and -----"

" any way you want to."

" close it up or you can just gather it back up and------"

" Exactly."

" put the, what do you call this, the tie back?"

" Put the tie back on it."

" These are beautiful now. Did you make these?"

" Yes. These were done by a person in our, Sue [unk] on our sewing room."

" Yes."

" The wood moulds that have been used for the trim."

" The trim."

" Made out of silk?"

" Yes."

" Yes. Everything's made of silk and incredibly hand made."

" Yes."

" The, at the top of the curtain, you'll see swags and your bows or swags and tails. And this is combining 2 of the favorite curtains of the 18th century into a new curtain for the 19th century and [unk] decorate it. It doesn't [unk] . It's just to be pretty."

" Okay."

" And all of the trim on the curtain has been applied just so that it will accent the folds or the contours of the curtain. And that's the draper's job. To make sure that we have absolutely perfects folds in the curtains. And you'll see that when Ruth works with her hands on them."

" Now, this is like a separate ribbon that was------"

" Yes."

" drawn on here right?"

" It was a separate ribbon and the ribbon, the miniature of that has been used for the wood mould that you see at the top of [unk]"

" What do you call this ribbed kind of fabric?"

" Just, it's just a ribbon like a girl might put------"

" Just a ribbon."

" in her hair. But it's a much wider one."

" Okay. Well, recently I visited, going to Williamsburg and saw the ladies at work putting all these pieces together. Watch."

" Ruth I know that we've tried to replicate the same types of fabrics that would've been used in the mansion historically a long time ago. What are these fabrics?"

" These, this is a silk taffeta that would've been used you know, at that time that the mansion was built. These are imported from France which is the same way they would have gotten, same place they would've got them from. Well, this just the lining. This is actually the lining and it's also a pure silk taffeta."

" Now this is the lining------"

" yes."

" and it's exposed to the sun, is that a bad idea?"

" Well, you know, it can damage the fabrics every time. But we have put an inner lining inside that will help protect------"

" Yes."

" the face fabric which is the blue one."

" Yes."

" You know in time, eventually, the linings will have to be replaced."

" Right."

" But------"

" What is this?"

" Now this is the top curtain and this is what they're calling a hammered silk. Its gonna be the swags and the jabots are made out of this and it hangs there with the top of the panel of the blue panel."

" The swags and the jabots are out of hammered silk."

" Yes."

" Now when you're gonna do this, how do you get started?"

" Well, we start with the pattern."

" So is this the design?"

" Yes. This patter was taken from, this picture's taken from the Whitehouse blue room and so we decided to make our pattern from this. We thought that'd be quite lovely."

" Oh it's got gorgeous window treatment. Yes."

" And so I made pattern next and I used, like to use old sheets for making the patterns. This is the swag up here on the [unk] some time [unk] and this that hangs down here is called the jabots."

" You just [unk] cotton sheets ha?"

" Right. They just really hang nicely."

" Well they do. They hang beautifully. And then once you've made this pattern, do you take it back to the mansion to make sure its right?"

" Yes, we do take it back to the mansion and hang it up at the window. Make sure the proportions are correct on it. Once that's done, then were ready to start working on it."

" Coz the designer can't really tell you what the proportions are. You gotta do a model in order to understand."

" Exactly. Just like with all things."

" Yes."

" And here is one of the panels here that Margie's working on."

" Now this part is the easiest part of the whole job right?"

" Yes. It's just, it's just big. And she's sewing the inner lining here. This is the inner lining that we use to protect the face of the fabric."

" Why don't you do this with the sewing machine? "

" Well, we use curved needles and sew it by hand because the fabric is so delicate. If you put a machine on that would run the fabric."

" What does that mean running the fabric?"

" So, you know, you can get like a little run in it. You know they'll pick, pick the thread------"

" Yes."

" You know."

" And this would be one of the jabots?"

" Yes, this is the jabots and Sue is finishing up the finishing stitch on the side. You know, this is, looks like its machine sewed clothes but it's actually all hand done. And this is how we close our fabrics up."

" Now the needles is like a sail maker's needle."

" yes it's a curve needle and we like sewing with this. It can pick up just a little less bit of fabric with this so that you don't see your stitches. And then your hand doesn't get as tired when you sew with the curved needle."

" So this is what the end result will look like."

" Yes. This is one that's, that's finished."

" Beautiful job."

" And it is just beautiful you know. [unk]"

" Well, lots of different pieces. But boy, when they all come together, it's such a beautiful window treatment. Now let's talk about how you install it. What's he doing up there?"

" Well he's just putting the medallions up there. And the medallion, we have drilled a hole into the plastic ring and inserted a plastic sleeve. And then we have a down screw that is screwed into that and that's holding the medallions in place."

" And there won't be too much weight off of that right?"

" No. No just the------"

" Just the weight off of this piece?"

" Yes. The weights on this piece, this is the piece that's gonna hold the panel and the blue [unk] that's on the very top. The screw eyes will hold the drapery pins will be hooked into those and then the blue panel, the blue [unk] on the top will attach to that."

" Coz this we have to remember is stationary window treatment. It doesn't close up but the interesting thing is that by using Velcro, if it needs to come down quickly to be dry cleaned or whatever you can do it that way."

" Exactly. You can handle and take of them a lot better when you have the Velcro and the screw eyes."

" Okay, well be ready for a panel in a minute. Alright hook that up now. Is this the right swag?"

" Sure is."

" Yes. That's the next one to go up."

" The one to go up."

" These have the Velcro on it so that they Velcro together up here."