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Discussing Cedar Shingle Siding

House seven of the Elmwood project. Homer Earl from the Cedar shake and shingle bureau tells us what makes a good shingle. Also a look at Sikkens Cetol1 shingle stain products. Bob Ryley and Bob apply side shingles.
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Discussing Cedar Shingle Siding

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" The sidewall shingles on Robert and crystal's house have probably been there for. Well the age of the house almost a century -- either pretty worn out. Homer -- is here from the cedar shake and shingle bureau thank you Bob to tell us a little bit about the that qualities of red cedar shingles that makes and make them so extraordinary. -- him and natural resistance to decay yeah. And that's what makes them so timeless is in this example so it's kind of like the chemicals that mother nature's put in Portland -- into the wood to. Resist weather didn't resist decay and insects right now these are all curled and used up and what I've got in my hand is like a perfectly geometric a piece of cedar what's the difference today. From what it was a hundred years ago that product up there is a standard shingle -- it's not necessarily even a number one shingle. From what I've seen that is come off already yes -- holding Bob. Is an eighteen inch number one perfection re butted and -- designed for sidewall application yes because it's reported three jointed. It provides uniformity. For the applicator. They go on quickly. And you always give you will be very smooth butt line this with the applicator or carpenter loves to see -- decision Howard these come from they all come from British Columbia the three mills that have been involved -- this product. Over this project are teal. Pacific coast and stave lake wonderful all in British Columbia is any of it coming from reclaimed. Well yes indeed it is we are salvaging a tremendous amount of wood these days 35 to 40% of our production excerpts from salvaged wood."

" Johannes -- struck who's here from the sickened company in this is. And Netherlands company that is now in Michigan right yes we produce products and then Michigan in that on -- Michigan Johannes what's this product called. Bob the product is called sick MC -- one now this product itself you know contains calling concede it. We have basically an outfit oil that is present. Where we have a very fine ground iron oxide pigment in there with Georgia beauty of the wood. We can create many different colors of course now. The color itself issued you know TUV protection which is the key -- we want to protect it against the UV breakdown OK it really allows you know the person to seem to be sure what you have to do though is dip each individual shingle yes and that would be my first coat on there -- first coast and then you'd you'd do it a second time. -- we would like to do a second coat application on there and then once that is on there has dried install them and when's the installation is done that we would like to really put to sit the third coat on ones that has been -- brush or brushing or spraying or either one would be fine as long -- and make sure that we get a nice finished product on there so. This would assure that we probably would get a full century's life out of the red cedar shingles can use this type of product on clapboards for example and oh yeah I got some other -- we do have a couple samples here basically this is the product in question we're talking about you know this is all of these just tongue and groove cedar siding. That it could be clapboard that could be tongue and groove that's a beautiful finish it so this can be up to the weather so that you have the grain of the red cedar. Showing through at all times that's correct and now I also noticed you have these opaque. Finishes that we're gonna be using for the trim yes is this basically an oil based and now. That is of oil based product which just kind of and that type of product in between a house paint and a solid stain it as the durability of the house thing but the breathe ability -- analysts don't breathe ability that's what's important."

" All right we're ready to do some of these -- kept this fellas already spent most of the time needed to remove all those hundred year old shingles and -- up magazine that the original sheathing is is is in good shape and that's it so -- this business -- it's gonna give us our flair for the starter course exactly this is a build out and very typical late 1800 shingle style house is at the bottom of the sidewall it flares out to help shed the water how do you build that detail up but. Well what we're doing is that we're gonna copy what they had in -- put their first course was cut. Dislike that stand. It's put on upside down. And basically that's full thickness of the shingle so that you're giving it that extra power. So what that's gonna do Faris. Let's put on a second course will bring the topic it down over this -- see about second course when it goes on. It's gonna. Going to just like that we're not asking so much of the shingle and that's the story pole right there which is taken off of the original sidewall shingles -- here exactly let me give you can't put some of these tech. Hold it down now why do you need a story full wrath -- really need this is whether it's gonna do farce is tell us where all of my shingle courses are going. We want to keep is it to have them kept at close to five inches as we can't yeah cause or five inches to the west exactly what we're trying to do is get to this point right here. And that measures 37 and a half inch which just aren't divisible by five they had to start fudging row of it writes this -- basic -- point three caught his point five eighths or five eighths point five eighths on. We get to a we want to. Me into historical authority. A duplicate of policy after the work regarded them are exactly the math was done a hundred years ago okay Arrigo from path. Right let's move this up to our next course has worked for three Gladys. For the product. The well it's gonna take quite a while the reaching for the rest this house and the crew from Phil Perry and sons have a lot of work to do. But the sidewalls will look just great when they finished."

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