" Well let's talk a little bit more about these philosophy involved in growing here and let's say hello to Bob Peter McKinley period staff ecologists with Hancock. So it's interesting either. A forestry clout company would be hiring an ecologist what is it that you do. I look for ecological -- sensitive areas like this this is a frog breeding habitat a frog breeding now that what does that have to do with harvesting lumber. We want to be responsible managers for the land and Hancock land company has hired -- and make sure that we take care of the non commodity values too such as yellow spotted salamanders. And wood frogs that need to breed here every spring. Forest surrounding it is just as important as this pool which is drying out but was wet. Back in April this is a Vernal pool which means that in the spring there's water here to habitat for hatching little apples and whatnot exactly it's an interesting story they escape. Do not get eaten by fish because there are no fish that can lift in it. In a pool at this time here -- dries out exactly we've -- Vernal -- we have streams for fly -- we have wild -- and those are some examples of other areas that we take special care to -- around we're -- buffer -- and -- but right around -- here's the buzz of the machinery everywhere what's going on -- right nearby well -- saw a moment ago we have trees painted with blue paint marked for -- isn't it tough to harvest one when it's around about -- stuff. Well that's why we hire crews with it's called a -- here and it's actually able to region of the hydraulic arm grabbed the tree pull it out."

" And lay it down so you do minimal damage to the actual area that we -- plucking these out of we do. What's this monster coming down the lane now I think we have a -- pulling a hitch out right now and filibusters harvested the wood you can bring us -- through here without damaging or do you have a special trail we have a special trip we flagged out a trail right over there. We're careful not to stir up -- soil. He's bringing active -- area we call the landing. Landing is where the wood is processed -- on drugs thing in the middle."

" Matt Hancock and his family have been lumbering in these parts since 1840 -- 1848 yes that's a wonderful family history. Now here we are visiting a part of your lands that was well when was this harvested last year just last year Thatcher so in a year. There's been some change but the first question is why did decide to leave some of these big white."

" Pines standing why not harvest them. Well -- anytime a company can have great economic gain in any year it chooses to do so. But from sustainability perspective we're looking to sustain our economy within and across generations these trees that we've left behind here. Our the next generation India and the fathering of the next generation. And Patrick what's all this behind is coming up well I see that you've got a lot of balsam fir back here is that is that a tree you're trying to grow for their economics. Other balsam fir is a component of the soil so that's part of what's gonna come back in there is some economic value but. But it essence part of the the of the immediate value is the shade cover it's gonna create for the next generation of pine that's coming back here naturally of the white pine is the main thing that we're interest in. In in these parts yes the main. Lumber product that's used for construction right white pine and and red -- our two most valuable components are as what you find here is that we've got here. How we use the -- I'm -- great red oak will grow to a veneer product that will be used for -- and then the next product now be used both to saw logs and also into -- so this this'll -- be like two generations down will -- you'll you'll you'll be growing for another 3040 years here this'll be my grandkids that give this one not me that's a great we'll look at it now. How long will you leave this alone. We'll be back in here the next fifteen to twenty years depending on how the how the stand recovers from the harvest last year and as as I think things now. Things have really come well and and I. You know the next fifteen to twenty years we'll -- back."