" OK well last week we got most of the structure of the deck. Completed and it's a large backyard deck I mean it it runs from that direction all the way around here so that you can really access it from the dining room and from the new entrance to the house. And we were looking closely at how we are framing things nowadays with pressure treated lumber. And one of the things that you'll see here's the use of bituthane this black barrier. That is placed between the pressure treated lumber and the metal fasteners that joist hangers even though they're galvanized metal the joist hangers have been known to corrode sometimes. In close contact with the pressure treated lumber so we're taking that precaution. And this of course is. The trip for which helps us carry the load of both this side of the deck and the adjacent side over here where where Tim is putting down the decking. Another point to make is right here this is an original feature of the house this kind of Oriel window as it's called which actually goes up two stories. We now. Stripped it of the trim and of the siding that was on it installs new Pella windows in here to match the old two over one. And what we're going to be doing later on is putting in some trim around here. In the area that had. More or less recessed panels right now why don't we go back down on the ground and meet Paul -- who's here from the western red cedar lumber association. Paul welcome to rally."

" Bob nice to meet you this is beautiful stock now thank you so many backyard decks nowadays are being built. With our combination of different products that have arrived in the marketplace some of them from exotic locations like Brazil. Heavy interesting exotic woods that sometimes who worry about sustainability absolutely other people are building decks with manmade decking products which have a lot of pros and a lot of -- but this is really a traditional wood product that I can remember using 25 years ago and still very popular western red cedar absolutely Bob western red cedar been around for hundreds of years and it comes from forests managed on a sustainable yield basis sustainable so we're -- worry about depleting our own force now there's actually more forests forest land and forestry for trees. Growing in the Pacific northwest where western red cedar comes from than there were hundred years ago is that right yeah so they continue replanting. A large scale. Yeah so it's coming from what see our an organ and all the way up into Canada or British Columbia through yesterday. Now what are some of the attributes of this particular wood product that make it a good choice. For exterior use and for backyard decking construction well have obviously Bob it's a naturally stable. And durable and -- species of wood that is also insect resistant now stable is very important in a deck absolutely because certain products."

" Are known to crack or check on the surface as they expand and contract and sometimes they even get wavy and -- You know certain products I've used in the past have had to be replaced in in the short period of time. This by stability means it's it's it's not going to move on it."

" That's correct it's the most stable softwood species available in North America Bob and what about cost -- Well Bob western red cedar comes in a wide variety of grades to make it affordable to just about anybody in this particular case. We're using the highest grade of cedar with cedar available which is clear vertical grain from him but it may cost more. But. Western red cedar has natural durability because it has contained -- likens. Which provide natural rot and decay and insect resistance which -- going to get not only great looking deck won the last a long time great thank you Bob thank you Bob. All right."