" All right so where in the room across the way from the nursery now which will be the guest bedroom and enlarge -- from certapro. And I want to talk about the kind of paints that we're using. And some tips on how to paint is caesar's. Old plaster walls now. We're kind of -- latex paint right. Yeah this latex paint its day. No VOC paint now BOCs. Are bought tile organic compounds. Which what the chemists want us to column and basically it's what makes the paint stink right yeah paint thinner in the old oil based paints and in latex paints. A variety of different. Modern chemicals ethylene glycol propylene glycol paints they've got away with -- all that stuff right these things have a special resin. Doesn't need. Any -- is a former good solid film bright very advanced very high -- so word in here reading it and it's not bothering us and I can attest to the fact that it doesn't stink yes it is almost pleasant community now. I again with VOC you can't get too confused because the fact is that once it's dried it it's over with there's really no. Harmful effect pretty much on the older paints yeah -- start of the talks the vast majority of the solvents in the air and as fast as you can ventilate the property of the home -- radio it's all -- what about the actual ability of this sort of paint to grip to -- to what's. Underneath it. You're actually getting a superior resin in these -- taxes than you would say basic latex paint them. Using when you get. No no fat food or fat free stuff for all the healthy things they don't taste as good but in this case I think you actually get a superior product and it's not that much more money can buy these products for a few gallons of two dollars a gallon more right. Rarely do we do just one coat because there's always little voids when the paint dries it shrinks there's gonna be literally settling on the paint film so night. Very good point is during that. First coat application you're scanning your eyes over every square foot of wall surface and you can see where you need to come back in depth. Do repair you're gonna notice the bad spots. For sure you can see him in a normal unfettered wall now is there reason why he's -- you know -- you cut in before you roll yeah he's cut in beautifully up here at the ceiling line with a very. Steady hand. And he's cut in where we have the roof eave line yet been down here at the baseboard boot windows I'm just noticing that these. He hasn't cut in he's let the yellow kind of go over the molding yes in an old house like this where the -- Scott. A lot of edges and it's not very even. The idea here -- overlap the wall paint onto the true. That gets the void in the area between the wall and the trim all covered one solid color and that way when you come back. Do trim that you good cross we'll run nice straight line what about. You're radiators he's he's he's painting right over the radiator is not a problem that's a good point no this is not a problem a lot of people don't realize that. These old metal radiators in homes are really just painted with ordinary latex wall paint. If there's rust. Obviously we need to spot prime with a rust primer but otherwise not normal paint stick to these doesn't effect the heat or their properties -- And you can decorate from the not your friend just like this. -- how do you finding good -- Look at what he's -- Talk to people he's worked for and in our case will triangle in the field with -- spears jobs like supervisor. You know that's that's one of the things a lot of people go into the painting business who. I haven't been trained properly that's right and you sometimes end up with a very unhappy clients."

" Yes and we train our key staff and when we bring on people who work as helpers and painters and apprentices. There are the watchful eye of someone of recapturing. You'll notice when he's rolling these walls a couple of things he's using an extension pole one thing that a lot of people miss when -- and especially doing it themselves. They don't think to invest twenty bucks an -- extension ball and I'll tell you it's really hard to paint with just a roller sleeve -- just your hand. You really got to put an extension pole on there and a decent one that fits your hand. You'll also notice he's rolling from floor to ceiling. Lot of people pay a little square. He's very purposely on each load of that roller painting roughly two roller words. That's how you know how much paint to use. And that's about the spread rate of a gallon of paint you should go floor to ceiling to roller widths. And that's I think press exactly showing us here great fastest most efficient way to put the right paint on the right on."

" Now are we using a different type of paint for a for the trim. Yes on the trim and Justin's painting here with semigloss paint. The walls we did eggshell. That's always a good idea but I meant is it still low VOC yes this is actually still no VOC paint its Sharon Williams harmony line. They make a full range flat eggshell semigloss even the primer he's painting over top of the primer as well was an OV OC primer that's right that's great. Yep and it's actually if you look at if you look at this trim where he's painting that was dark red. That was the importance of a steady hand is it obviously. At the top of the list when your when you're doing that. Yes this is where the craftsmanship comes in -- getting your page. The quality of that line's what your eye's gonna look at what kind of -- paintbrush should we use. In this case he's using looks like a Purdy. Synthetics like polyester bristle noodles are pretty expensive brushes and goes on with the exploded tips. Yes they call them flared or flagged tips they flag them but it's not a China bristle no you wouldn't want to use out of latex. They expand and blow. And they don't spread the paint very well also those are best used -- varnish is and that sort of stuff smelly oil based paint and yes. Got lots of -- seasons yet. That brush there's probably twenty bucks. I notice they paint out of a pail is that important. Well you'll notice the way he paints she doesn't really scrape the brush on the side these types of little to get rid of the loose paint on the walls of the pail yes and having a pail with a large open mouth like that just makes these you get -- get the -- So baseboards -- a little bit easier than a panel door right any tips. Well. A flat panel door closed door we might just roll and get an -- like light stipple texture a lot of doors are like. In this case we have an old wooden door it was previously finished with."

" Varnish or what even painted and who want to leave a nice brush texture so we're gonna paint the entire door by brush and -- using our big four inch brush. And our standard procedure on almost anything we paint -- fault with this door is we do the hard stuff first we work inside top to bottom left to right."

" Inside out means from the deepest part like the panel deepest part out to the farthest out part so we're not sort of painting the frame while we're still going around it to get to the door and tape those nice old brass hinges and take off the doorknob -- discussions -- keyhole covers. All the antique elements -- you don't get any paint on yeah and then when the door before the paint dries will pull it off. All right get a bridge Ed thanks for the -- Bob thank you."